What Does Healthy Mean (BBHS001)
Alright. Welcome to the Basic Bitch Health Show, connecting the dots of body, mind, and social. So welcome, welcome. Here we are kicking off the Basic Bitch Health Show. In this first episode, you'll meet and hear me chatting with Brady.
Cam:He'll be a reoccurring guest on the show answering a lot of my annoying questions. He's a friend and
Brady:kind of,
Cam:I guess, my health mentor. At least that's how I see it. But here for starters, we're just gonna have a little chat on what health basically kinda means. So hope you enjoy. Okay, Brady.
Cam:Welcome to the show.
Brady:Thank you. Thank you. It's been a long time coming.
Cam:Yeah. It's been a long time coming for sure. It's gonna be a, like, a health show for basic people. So we're not necessarily have to have the most the people with credentials under their name, letters, and all that kind of thing, but just thoughts and ideas from other people I know. And you have been in the industry, the health supplement industry, for 15, 20?
Cam:How many years?
Brady:Probably 20 years.
Cam:20 years? Yep. Alright.
Brady:That's
Cam:I feel like there's some legitimate to that. Legitimacy.
Brady:It's been interesting. It's been things change in 20 years.
Cam:I imagine. And that's actually what I wanted to talk about today for this little kinda tester teaser trailer kinda thing. Health. So someone comes to you and says, I wanna start being healthy.
Brady:And and then I'm just supposed to give them a give a a starting point.
Cam:Well, here's the thing. What is what is health mean? What does healthy mean? What is healthy food? What is a healthy body?
Cam:Like, I know that's a massive subject, especially since, like you said, a lot of things have changed in the last 20 years. So, like, when I was growing up, it was the 4 food groups and the pyramid, and that was healthy. And now it seems like that pyramid is crumbling.
Brady:Mhmm. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely it's crumbling. It's some of the most ridiculous recommendations out there.
Cam:Okay. There's an insight of how you think.
Brady:Yeah. Yeah. I mean, so when I think about like health, it's usually like somebody's coming to you because they probably don't feel good. And so then they're looking for how do I how do I feel better? And then of course that's like a range of things that you can look at and then you just have to ask more questions.
Brady:So it's never gonna be, we'll just do this and then you're gonna be healthy. It's what's going on with you like why don't you feel healthy and then you go from there. And so it could be sleep for some people, maybe they don't move enough, maybe they're not eating right, maybe their social environment's not good. It's kind of this umbrella of things and then so you need to dig deeper and find out. Maybe it's just something as simple as nutrient deficiencies.
Brady:And then it's like, oh, take this multivitamin or let's tweak your diet a little bit, and then you can, you know, hopefully see some improvements. And then, you know, for other people it might be like, well, that's work on your sleep. So, you know, you only sleep 5 or 6 hours a night, like, that's going to be a hugely impactful thing. So we need to we need to focus on that and, you know, I always think sleep is one of the most essential things you can, you know, take care of and Mhmm. I can have one of the biggest impacts on your day to day life.
Brady:So, you know, sleep is always gonna be something that we wanna look for optimizing, you know, and something you're probably gonna benefit from very, very, very quickly. You know, you all of a sudden go from sleeping 6 hours a night to sleeping 8 hours a night or or more, and that that sleep affects you the next day.
Cam:Well I imagine that if you don't, your sleep's not good, then even everything else you do, it's basing it off of something that's not optimal to begin with.
Brady:Yeah. So, so It impacts your decision making too, so then you maybe don't go for the healthy option for food, or you know, maybe you get up a little bit later because you're trying to squeeze in a little bit more time, then you don't have time to prep for the day or, you know, and then you're reaching for those convenience foods more so and then Mhmm. Snowballs into more and more
Cam:things. So so I guess the basic of it is how you're feeling, like that's where you it starts. So someone could go to McDonald's 3 times a week, and I drink pop, but I feel great because I have great sleeps.
Brady:How do you argue with that?
Cam:Okay. Right.
Brady:So You know, like Unless you're You know, maybe in that case, maybe that person went to their doctor, they got some blood test, and they're like, I'm concerned about this, this, and this. So fair enough. You're not feeling terrible. Your body is really good at making you function even though it might not be optimized, or hiding it from you. So you can, you know, still get through your day.
Brady:So there is ways that that doesn't always correlate, but in general, that's a good place to start. If you don't feel any negatives then why are we making changes in the first place?
Cam:Right, so healthy can just be like if I feel awake, energized, clear headed, I'm sleeping okay, I'm not achy, then it's like then that's kind of the the umbrella of things are good, and then you can start trying
Brady:to
Cam:pick where could you improve. But most people come and there's a issue, and that's what you're trying to fix. Right? So healthy, like, sometime sometimes, I have a dinner and someone will be like, oh, this is such a healthy meal. Mhmm.
Cam:And I'm thinking, maybe double the meat and I'd be happier?
Brady:Yeah. But I mean, that's where you're at. But Right. Maybe not maybe for them, you know, that is a step up from whatever they're eating before. Maybe they're used to stopping at, you know, on the way home from work and grabbing something from whatever store.
Cam:Right.
Brady:That's already premade and and so they were like, you know, I made this meal that maybe in our mind isn't like the optimum food they could've ate, but it was a step up from them stopping and getting something premade and they actually made it at home with real ingredients that, you know, they chose themselves. Mhmm. And so that was this progression to that next step for them whereas, you know, you've probably made tweaks for a long time so that maybe isn't the progression for you. You're doing something else. You're at a different stage there, but then that person's next step is just trying to mix a little bit maybe homemade meals instead of trying to stop and get convenience food all the time.
Cam:So healthy can can maybe it's not the optimal healthy meal, but I mean that's subjective too depending on the person's makeup and what they need, but also it's healthier than yesterday. Yeah. So it could be like healthy today and tomorrow, like it's a constant moving thing.
Brady:Yeah. And trying to get someone to make changes into this what you deem to be the most optimum thing without steps in between is a recipe for disaster. Right. Very few people are going to be able to go switch one day from eating, you know, convenience food and and junk food, say, to eating this perfect diet that we deem and then and be able to sustain that. Maybe they can do it for a couple weeks.
Brady:Maybe they can do it for a month or or longer depending on their willpower, but eventually that's going to wear down and that's not hasn't become part of their normal. And so they don't have the habits to do that. They don't, you know, have all these other parts that are part of eating, well to actually keep that going in the long term. And so that's why you have to do most people need to progress in these small little steps. So that all of a sudden they're getting there and they're like, you know, this is easy for me because I did all these little steps before like I don't think that what I do is that hard but if somebody tried to copy maybe what I do they might be like, oh my goodness.
Brady:Those are That's too much too much. I can't Yeah.
Cam:Do all
Brady:that stuff.
Cam:I remember I came and talked to you once, I don't know, probably 6 or 7 years ago, and and I was like, oh, I need this in my diet, or I should probably get some of this. And you're like, you know, you can just eat that. Yeah. Like, I don't remember what it was or what food it was, but you could just eat that at, like, there's there's ways to eat it. And I was like, I'm not gonna.
Cam:Yeah. So
Brady:I need to put some supplements come in. Right? I mean, for a lot of people is is I always like to offer that that food alternative, because I never want to be like you need to take this pill to get this thing or to be better. Right. And so if I can fight figure out where you can get that from food, it's always I always wanna say, like, that's probably gonna be a better option, but not everybody's ready for cooking liver or learning how to, you know, cook this soup or this bone broth or this, you know, whatever vegetable or something like that.
Cam:Right. Right.
Brady:And so you have another option of, okay, well I'm gonna start with taking this nutrient in the supplement form. And then, you know, over time, I'm sure you've probably started going, okay, well, you know, I could eat a little of this. I could eat a little of that. Yeah. And then and then maybe I don't need to take this anymore because, you know, I started eating those things.
Brady:But it wasn't the where you started. It was kind of like what you progress to over time. Right.
Cam:Right. It's Yeah. It's it seems like it's just constantly moving. And I guess too when you change one thing, then the thing that you're okay.
Brady:I don't
Cam:know how it says. If if you were trying to fix 2 things and you changed one thing to fix that thing, then essentially your makeup is changed so what you might need for the other thing might be different. Those being very obscure, abstract. Things.
Brady:Sure. I agree with that, but I would be more specific to to really understand what you're trying to say.
Cam:So I guess the basic thing is there's not so health is not eat these three things, you'll be healthy. It's not do this exact thing. Like, there's no diet or no everyone talks about all the diet. The keto, the I can't remember all of them. I don't really pay attention to them.
Brady:But Plant based and carnivore and But everyone's different. So Yeah.
Cam:So it's really just paying attention to your body, and then picking the things apart.
Brady:It's a good place to start. Pay attention to your body. That I mean, that's something you can do without a doctor. That's something you can do on your own. You know, you do have to have some sense of how you're doing.
Brady:Maybe people need to journal to see how they're doing, you know, some people do well with like a sleep journal, you know, and then they can measure, oh, you know, I tweak these little things, did it work? So it is always good to have some kind of tool to measure whether your intervention has the outcome that you're looking for. But, yeah, small tweaks over time.
Cam:Because, yeah, a lot of people just using sleep as an example, a lot of people might think they sleep fine. Yeah. But in reality they they may not.
Brady:And they might feel like they only need 5 or 6 hours sleep. No. I feel fine. You know, it's it's no big deal. I function totally fine and then and then all of a sudden maybe they go on vacation and they're sleeping more and and they come back and they're like, oh, man.
Brady:5 hours is not enough.
Cam:I feel like that's that's a really example of how people are used to being living chronically. Like they're used to living in a state of existence rather than, like some people say, like thriving or like optimized version of themselves. So they might not even know what it's like to get 8 hours of sleep. Yeah. Clean sleep, good sleep.
Cam:Yeah. And to eat some good food. Like, you might not even know what it feels like to be you.
Brady:Yeah. Well, and if you if you've watched any of, Gary Breca's stuff Yeah. He's He worked with Dana White. And one of the things that Dana White keeps saying is, like, I I didn't realize how, how good I could feel. He's like, I feel amazing.
Brady:I can't believe how good I feel, and Gary keeps just saying, like, you know that Dana that that's just normal. That's what normal feels like you just use got up to normal and that's unfortunately probably where a lot of people end up being is if they feel like they're normal because you know they don't necessarily have anything wrong but there's this next level where you can have this good cognition and energy all day long. You can sleep throughout the night without interruption. You can have conversations. You can go without eating for long periods of time.
Brady:You can eat foods without digestive upset. There's all these things that, you know, maybe you don't realize can happen, and so your normal gets, you know, shifted to wherever you're you're at usually and that that, you know, you feel fine you get by. Yeah. Right?
Cam:And then our pride and ego is just like, well, this is just how I am. Like, you don't know.
Brady:Like, yeah. Totally. Yeah. This is how I am. This is how my wife is, my husband is, or or my parents are, and and that's just how we are.
Cam:And I just like you to fix this one thing. Yeah. So just Can I have that pillow, please? Yes. Yes.
Cam:Alright. Well, let's, we should wrap this up for today.
Brady:Yeah.
Cam:So this is just intro of things that we could cover. Just a quick thing for people, just
Brady:can you give
Cam:a list of things off the top of your head? Places, resources, like you mentioned, Gary Brecker. Yeah. So, like, just a few things that to start people off.
Brady:Man, there there's so many things. So, like, Gary Breca has been killing it license lately. He's been putting out all really good information. He became really well known because he helped Dana White, you know, change his life, and and really optimize his physiology and and his lifestyle. So he's great.
Brady:I love, the the Peak Human podcast. I think it's amazing. Okay. You know, he's been doing it. Brian Sanders has been doing it for a really long time.
Brady:He said some of the best, most knowledgeable people on his podcast. You know, usually, he starts out his podcast like, hey, go back to episode 1 and start from there because there's just, like, an, an education that they can progress by just start starting at the beginning and then and then learning a lot. Okay. I love that. I love Western Air Price Foundation.
Brady:I think that they do some fantastic stuff. The Price Pottinger Foundation also fantastic doing similar kind of work. I don't know what Precision Nutrition. They're also, like, definitely on the ball. I mean, that's where I get all the information where about, like, how you establish habits that become easy and how you can't do too many things at once.
Brady:And they're very good at behavior change, and that's a huge part of all of this.
Cam:I was just gonna ask that. Like, how many things should someone try and take on? They're like, oh, like they're listening to things and they're like, I should do that, that, that, that, that, and they got 10 things Yeah. Like how am I gonna do this?
Brady:Yeah. I mean, so their whole thing is you work with a coach to figure out what the one thing is that is going to be have the most impact on you. And then once you've got that thing kinda handled, then we're gonna add one more thing, and they will never introduce more than one thing at a time. And even I've, you know, read read little stories where people were like, I wish you had told me more, and they're like, yeah, but then you wouldn't have done it. So it's this balancing act, you know, I I was at a conference with, doctor John Berardi was was speaking and he's the founder of Precision Nutrition, and I I I don't remember the exact statistics, but it it was something like, you know, if some if we give you one habit to to start doing until whatever is to eat breakfast every single day, you don't eat breakfast every day and and that's something you wanted to change so we're just gonna give you the one habit and most people will be like 70 to 80, 85 percent, able to do that Right.
Brady:That change. You know, you gotta negotiate with people like is this possible for you and things like that. Right. Yeah. It's more nuance than that.
Brady:But but then he was saying like when you, when you add a second habit in, like we're gonna start an exercise program and we're gonna change your diet or some 22 kind of bigger things to handle. The compliance and the success rate goes down to like 10%. So you're going from like 70, 80 or more 90% success rate of of somebody being able to incorporate that habit or that change into their life to now by just adding a second one to now to 10%. 10% of the people will be able to do that and do it long term. And so you you really wanna do it one at a time.
Brady:You wanna find what that most impactful thing is, the number one thing that you wanna address, your sleep, your diet, your exercise, your you know, social connections, your your stress levels, you know, whatever that biggest big picture thing is and hopefully you have somebody to sort of run that over and maybe help you decide what that is. Mhmm. And then you focus on that and then usually they work in about 2 week intervals or such depending on the person and then you reassess after 2 weeks. How did that go? Were you able to accomplish what you wanted to accomplish?
Brady:Yes. Great. We're gonna add something else. No. Okay.
Brady:Well, can we make it a little bit easier now? We're gonna make this even easier so that we can get to that percentage where you're you're feeling good with it. Right.
Cam:You know,
Brady:I could only we we wanted you to exercise 3 days a week but you didn't you weren't able to do it. Can you do 2 days a week? You know, we're gonna make it a little bit easier but now we you we got you to exercise 3 days a week and you got that dialed, great. Let's start adding something else. So
Cam:So I do think I do think some fluctuate. I do think sometimes people, I I went to physio 1 well, I've been to physio a lot, but he was like, do it every day. Yeah. Because then I might do it 3 times.
Brady:Right. Yes. Totally. Yeah. The goal is every day.
Brady:I know you're gonna piss. Look, you got a few. Right? Yeah.
Cam:Because if he says 3, I might do it once.
Brady:Yeah.
Cam:So, like, I think some people are almost need a bigger challenge because I feel like yeah. Like, you might need a bigger challenge to be, like, this is an actual thing that I'm doing. If it's so minimal, then it might not matter. But different peep people are different. Mhmm.
Cam:But, also, if you try and just do one thing, like you're saying, the basic psychology of that is that if you succeed and notice a difference, you'll be like, oh, it's worth doing
Brady:It's a momentum builder. Worth changing things. It's a momentum builder. All of a sudden, it's like, yeah. I I did something.
Brady:I accomplished that. I overcame my struggles that I had before. And so that can be highly motivating to now do the second thing. And and their whole point is it might start out slow, but then those things build over time and that momentum builds and you all of a sudden you realize that you're more capable of of way more than what you actually thought you could. Yeah.
Brady:And then you end up speeding up the progress as you go along because of this sort of, like, momentum that you build at the beginning.
Cam:Yeah. The success and and change and feeling good and excitement of life still that doesn't matter if you're 70. You can still you're still alive.
Brady:Mhmm. Mhmm. So Yeah.
Cam:Yeah. Alright. Well, we should wrap up here. Yeah. Cool.
Cam:That was great. Yeah. And we'll dig into maybe some of your background next time, and then we've got a whole list of things that we're gonna do. We're gonna we're gonna have some basic stuff, and then we're gonna have some detailed things where I'm gonna have to ask a lot of questions. Alright.
Brady:Alright. To rip
Cam:it through. So I'll
Brady:do my best. Alright.
Cam:Okay. Great. Alright. Thank you, Brady.
Brady:Yeah. Bye.